DUST Search - Fighters: Control Scheme and Aerial Combat Sggestions

Harpyja wrote:

The following thread is a control layout mapping suggestion along with possible future additions to go with certain controls and air combat. I'm assuming the following: 2 small turrets that don't have to be the same type and VTOL abilities

Right stick X-axis: yaw
Right stick Y-axis: pitch
Left stick X-axis: roll
Left stick Y-axis: forward throttle control*

R1: fire
R2: module wheel
R2 + R3: turret wheel**
R3: toggle between 1st and 3rd person view

L1: downward thrust
L2: upward thrust
L3: maintain altitude

Circle: exit vehicle
Square: unused***
Triangle: unused***
X: unused***

D-pad: unchanged

*Pulling down on the throttle and reaching a certain speed will automatically toggle the craft for vertical thrust. Increasing the throttle will automatically toggle the craft for forward flight at a certain speed.
**Turret wheel: allows you to toggle turrets. Select A, B, or A+B. Alternative mapping: tap Triangle to toggle selection.
***Can be used for future additions to the game. For example, Square can be used for countermeasures if they get implemented. X can be used for secondary weapons****
****Secondary weapons will be a third turret slot capable of only equipping a secondary weapon. Secondary weapons will be limited in ammo count but can be resupplied at supply depots. A secondary weapon may include bombs and guided missiles

Guided missiles: there can be three types of guided missiles: AAM (air to air missile), AGM (air to ground missile), and LOM (lock-on missile).
AAM: can only lock onto vehicles at least 10m above any surface. (Lock on to aerial vehicles only makes no sense if you can lock a grounded dropship but not an HAV next to it.) Strong damage and good tracking. Ammo count: 3-4
AGM: can only lock onto ground vehicles. Strong damage and good tracking. Ammo count: 3-4
LOM: can lock onto any vehicle. Moderate damage and moderate tracking. Ammo count: 2

This control layout will be optimal (in my opinion) for fighter pilots. The right stick will remain as a means for targeting. (Yes, I know that this isn't how real aircraft are controlled, but for simplicity's sake this is a console game)

Hovering and forward flight modes will be independent of each other with simple transitions.

Using vertical thrust and pitch will enable pilots to chase ground targets.

Using vertical thrust, pitch, yaw, and roll will enable pilots to strafe targets.

I'd like to hear feedback and suggest alternatives for control schemes!


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Vavilia Lysenko Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 118	Posted - 2013.07.06 15:12:00 - [1] - Quote Harpyja wrote: The following thread is a control layout mapping suggestion along with possible future additions to go with certain controls and air combat. I'm assuming the following: 2 small turrets that don't have to be the same type and VTOL abilities Right stick X-axis: yaw Right stick Y-axis: pitch Left stick X-axis: roll Left stick Y-axis: forward throttle control* R1: fire R2: module wheel R2 + R3: turret wheel R3: toggle between 1st and 3rd person view L1: downward thrust L2: upward thrust L3: maintain altitude Circle: exit vehicle Square: unused* Triangle: unused* X: unused* D-pad: unchanged Pulling down on the throttle and reaching a certain speed will automatically toggle the craft for vertical thrust. Increasing the throttle will automatically toggle the craft for forward flight at a certain speed. Turret wheel: allows you to toggle turrets. Select A, B, or A+B. Alternative mapping: tap Triangle to toggle selection. Can be used for future additions to the game. For example, Square can be used for countermeasures if they get implemented. X can be used for secondary weapons **Secondary weapons will be a third turret slot capable of only equipping a secondary weapon. Secondary weapons will be limited in ammo count but can be resupplied at supply depots. A secondary weapon may include bombs and guided missiles Guided missiles: there can be three types of guided missiles: AAM (air to air missile), AGM (air to ground missile), and LOM (lock-on missile). AAM: can only lock onto vehicles at least 10m above any surface. (Lock on to aerial vehicles only makes no sense if you can lock a grounded dropship but not an HAV next to it.) Strong damage and good tracking. Ammo count: 3-4 AGM: can only lock onto ground vehicles. Strong damage and good tracking. Ammo count: 3-4 LOM: can lock onto any vehicle. Moderate damage and moderate tracking. Ammo count: 2 This control layout will be optimal (in my opinion) for fighter pilots. The right stick will remain as a means for targeting. (Yes, I know that this isn't how real aircraft are controlled, but for simplicity's sake this is a console game) Hovering and forward flight modes will be independent of each other with simple transitions. Using vertical thrust and pitch will enable pilots to chase ground targets. Using vertical thrust, pitch, yaw, and roll will enable pilots to strafe targets. I'd like to hear feedback and suggest alternatives for control schemes! I would save this post somewhere and maybe post it again in a couple of years when Jets/Fighters have been mentioned in a Dev Blog.